The 'Say Something' thread

[Lorraine]

Not sure which thread to use? Don't need it to be a conversation?
This one's for you


I just looked at the underwhelming partial eclipse through squinted eyes and survived.

Also, we're off to a festival tomorrow and it will be 36 degrees when we arrive. I'm in the 'special' field as I'm still on crutches. Viewing platforms FTW!

[Sugarmouse]

Great idea for a thread Lorraine (I cannot find an emoticon that suits that doesn't look sarcastic).

If you've got me on fb you'll know but I have recently discovered making seitan and I am having very mixed feelings about it. It's great, and in theory saves me money buying ready to eat products, but;

• It makes a damn mess. Whitewash-like substance everywhere!
  It uses a LOT of water and since moving I am on a meter. My bill was astronomical last month but perhaps that was from filling the newly-dug-out-pond.
  It's time-consuming
  I feel guilty for all the waste! Whole bag (3.5lb) of flour for 1.5oz seitan.
  I have been watering the garden with the waste water, using the sediment to bake loaves of very-carb-y bread (for family, I don't eat it) but ..
  is this really a sustainable mission? I am not sure.

Other than that, this morning I've walked Luna, been to the gym, swam and now I am sitting here supposedly working, still wearing my sports bra with deep conditioner on my hair to counteract the chlorine. Not a good sight. Will have to get up and shower shortly!

[Sugarmouse]

Also apparently I cannot figure out how to do bulletpoints on this platform.

[Lorraine]

If you've got me on fb you'll know but I have recently discovered making seitan

Did you know you can just buy Vital Wheat Gluten to save having to do the washed flour method?

I tried the washing method once and decided to never bother again.

[Sugarmouse]

If you've got me on fb you'll know but I have recently discovered making seitan

Did you know you can just buy Vital Wheat Gluten to save having to do the washed flour method?

I tried the washing method once and decided to never bother again.

I do, but I just figured that that just means someone else is wasting a load of water rather than me using it on the garden!

I haven't yet found out where I would buy it from. I am guessing if I was going to buy it, I may as well just buy other ready-made products? Or am I missing something?

It is SUCH a faff isn't it. Makes such a mess, so much potential waste. My kitchen looked like it had been whitewashed the first time I did it.

[Lorraine]

If you've got me on fb you'll know but I have recently discovered making seitan

Did you know you can just buy Vital Wheat Gluten to save having to do the washed flour method?

I tried the washing method once and decided to never bother again.

I do, but I just figured that that just means someone else is wasting a load of water rather than me using it on the garden!

I haven't yet found out where I would buy it from. I am guessing if I was going to buy it, I may as well just buy other ready-made products? Or am I missing something?

It is SUCH a faff isn't it. Makes such a mess, so much potential waste. My kitchen looked like it had been whitewashed the first time I did it.

I'm sure I saw somebody make something else out of the waste water, but can't think what it was now.
It is a good way to make use of that water though, putting it on the garden.

Another 'did you know'? You really need to use strong bread flour as regular flour doesn't have enough protein in. When I looked at how much seitan you could make from one bag of bread flour, I decided it wasn't cost effective and just bought vital wheat gluten instead. I've bought it from Amazon and Whole Foods online.

Have you tried making tofu yet? I used to, and will again I'm sure. It takes time and strong hands but the flavour was gorgeous. I would eat it raw dipped in soy sauce.

I even tried Tempeh. That's a pain in the arse, needing the correct starter bacteria, the exact right temperature and plastic bags with holes in. I've decided I don't like it anyway, even the shop bought one.

Oh, soya yoghurt I've made too. Bleurgh. I'll stick to Alpro. They know what they're doing, haha.

[Sugarmouse]

Did you know you can just buy Vital Wheat Gluten to save having to do the washed flour method?

I tried the washing method once and decided to never bother again.

I do, but I just figured that that just means someone else is wasting a load of water rather than me using it on the garden!

I haven't yet found out where I would buy it from. I am guessing if I was going to buy it, I may as well just buy other ready-made products? Or am I missing something?

It is SUCH a faff isn't it. Makes such a mess, so much potential waste. My kitchen looked like it had been whitewashed the first time I did it.

I'm sure I saw somebody make something else out of the waste water, but can't think what it was now.
It is a good way to make use of that water though, putting it on the garden.

Another 'did you know'? You really need to use strong bread flour as regular flour doesn't have enough protein in. When I looked at how much seitan you could make from one bag of bread flour, I decided it wasn't cost effective and just bought vital wheat gluten instead. I've bought it from Amazon and Whole Foods online.

Have you tried making tofu yet? I used to, and will again I'm sure. It takes time and strong hands but the flavour was gorgeous. I would eat it raw dipped in soy sauce.

I even tried Tempeh. That's a pain in the arse, needing the correct starter bacteria, the exact right temperature and plastic bags with holes in. I've decided I don't like it anyway, even the shop bought one.

Oh, soya yoghurt I've made too. Bleurgh. I'll stick to Alpro. They know what they're doing, haha.

I've tried a couple of recipes for the waste water and none worked. In fairness they were from dubious resources (things my friend found on tiktok mainly)!

I am not sure, with the garden because apparently the sugars can encourage mould. Which makes sense. My Mum saw the state of my kitchen and suggested that I make it outside using the hosepipe. Which I did, and then she complained about the mess in the garden (and it did my back in)!

I get about 4 portions (which last about 2 days while I am training every day) from one bag of bread flour. Which is about £1.50. So more cost effective than (for example) buying some faux chicken from aldi which is two portions for £2. And I do love cooking, and of course you can add your own favoured flavourings. I will see where I can get VWG from.


I have only tried tempeh twice, for some reason I thought that sounded easier than tofu because it is less processing, but I accept I could be wrong. I've never tried making either. Do you have a favourite tofu recipe? I do have strong hands thankfully (blame the pole for that)!

I never use soy yogurt so you've sufficiently put me off even trying to make that!

[Lorraine]

I do, but I just figured that that just means someone else is wasting a load of water rather than me using it on the garden!

I haven't yet found out where I would buy it from. I am guessing if I was going to buy it, I may as well just buy other ready-made products? Or am I missing something?

It is SUCH a faff isn't it. Makes such a mess, so much potential waste. My kitchen looked like it had been whitewashed the first time I did it.

I'm sure I saw somebody make something else out of the waste water, but can't think what it was now.
It is a good way to make use of that water though, putting it on the garden.

Another 'did you know'? You really need to use strong bread flour as regular flour doesn't have enough protein in. When I looked at how much seitan you could make from one bag of bread flour, I decided it wasn't cost effective and just bought vital wheat gluten instead. I've bought it from Amazon and Whole Foods online.

Have you tried making tofu yet? I used to, and will again I'm sure. It takes time and strong hands but the flavour was gorgeous. I would eat it raw dipped in soy sauce.

I even tried Tempeh. That's a pain in the arse, needing the correct starter bacteria, the exact right temperature and plastic bags with holes in. I've decided I don't like it anyway, even the shop bought one.

Oh, soya yoghurt I've made too. Bleurgh. I'll stick to Alpro. They know what they're doing, haha.

I've tried a couple of recipes for the waste water and none worked. In fairness they were from dubious resources (things my friend found on tiktok mainly)!

I am not sure, with the garden because apparently the sugars can encourage mould. Which makes sense. My Mum saw the state of my kitchen and suggested that I make it outside using the hosepipe. Which I did, and then she complained about the mess in the garden (and it did my back in)!

I get about 4 portions (which last about 2 days while I am training every day) from one bag of bread flour. Which is about £1.50. So more cost effective than (for example) buying some faux chicken from aldi which is two portions for £2. And I do love cooking, and of course you can add your own favoured flavourings. I will see where I can get VWG from.


I have only tried tempeh twice, for some reason I thought that sounded easier than tofu because it is less processing, but I accept I could be wrong. I've never tried making either. Do you have a favourite tofu recipe? I do have strong hands thankfully (blame the pole for that)!

I never use soy yogurt so you've sufficiently put me off even trying to make that!

I'll take a photo of my tofu recioe later for you. It's hand written in my 'tried and tested' recioe book.
I'll send my Mung bean egg recioe too.

[Sugarmouse]

I'm sure I saw somebody make something else out of the waste water, but can't think what it was now.
It is a good way to make use of that water though, putting it on the garden.

Another 'did you know'? You really need to use strong bread flour as regular flour doesn't have enough protein in. When I looked at how much seitan you could make from one bag of bread flour, I decided it wasn't cost effective and just bought vital wheat gluten instead. I've bought it from Amazon and Whole Foods online.

Have you tried making tofu yet? I used to, and will again I'm sure. It takes time and strong hands but the flavour was gorgeous. I would eat it raw dipped in soy sauce.

I even tried Tempeh. That's a pain in the arse, needing the correct starter bacteria, the exact right temperature and plastic bags with holes in. I've decided I don't like it anyway, even the shop bought one.

Oh, soya yoghurt I've made too. Bleurgh. I'll stick to Alpro. They know what they're doing, haha.

I've tried a couple of recipes for the waste water and none worked. In fairness they were from dubious resources (things my friend found on tiktok mainly)!

I am not sure, with the garden because apparently the sugars can encourage mould. Which makes sense. My Mum saw the state of my kitchen and suggested that I make it outside using the hosepipe. Which I did, and then she complained about the mess in the garden (and it did my back in)!

I get about 4 portions (which last about 2 days while I am training every day) from one bag of bread flour. Which is about £1.50. So more cost effective than (for example) buying some faux chicken from aldi which is two portions for £2. And I do love cooking, and of course you can add your own favoured flavourings. I will see where I can get VWG from.


I have only tried tempeh twice, for some reason I thought that sounded easier than tofu because it is less processing, but I accept I could be wrong. I've never tried making either. Do you have a favourite tofu recipe? I do have strong hands thankfully (blame the pole for that)!

I never use soy yogurt so you've sufficiently put me off even trying to make that!

I'll take a photo of my tofu recioe later for you. It's hand written in my 'tried and tested' recioe book.
I'll send my Mung bean egg recioe too.

Thank you, that'd be appreciated!

My Mum's Sister is over from the states next week and we're all going on a minibreak together (that's me, her, Mum and my sister). I would ordinarily take at least one full week off work when my Aunt visits, but I haven't this year after they left me out of two things they did last year, let me down on a visit to me etc and as they have form for this, I've decided enough is enough.

I think they're close-knit as the three of them as I came along so much later, my Mum had my Sister young so they've all grown together of sorts. I am glad I've realised now.