joe barton

[bik]

bartons Joke verdict (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7409943.stm)

6 months? what the Frak. anyone else and they'd have got a few years at least.

ban this beast from football. kids are gonna think its cool to smash up people and get a small sentence for it


Sentencing him to six months in jail, Judge Henry Globe QC said it was a "violent and cowardly act". - sums him and his axe weilding family members up


"The club is considering the verdict and will be making no further comment at this moment." - do the right thing toon, and kick him out

[totalvictory]

Oh shit off you reactionary git. You don't actually know what he did.

[Denning]

Oh shit off you reactionary git. You don't actually know what he did.

Punched a bloke so hard it knocked his teeth out and straddled another bloke while punching him repeatedly in the face. Sums up what he did to be honest.

[one devils st.]

if only we could Ashley Cole now. that would be the greatest news, the two biggest **** heads in football, banged up.

[Michael]

I hope he serves six months and not the three being touted about for 'good behaviour'. Keggy apparently sent a letter citing he 'was a changed man'....i disagree.

I remember seeing him on MOTD being interviewed about a 18 months ago, he was going on about being level headed now and clear about his future..talking himself up as a decent bloke, two weeks later he brutally assaulted Dabo on the training pitch.

I hope after he comes out he finally sorts himself out but more than likely he'll just temporarily change then as soon as something gets in his way, assaults them.

[totalvictory]

Punched a bloke so hard it knocked his teeth out and straddled another bloke while punching him repeatedly in the face. Sums up what he did to be honest.

Sources? Provocation? Motivation? You can't look at events in isolation. He deserves a sentence but to be banned from football? Nope.

[Denning]

Sources? Provocation? Motivation? You can't look at events in isolation. He deserves a sentence but to be banned from football? Nope.

The BBC report it was the evidence he was convicted on, admitted to and was on CCTV so recorded doing as well as the medical records.
2 incidents in one night, other charges currently being brought for violence and a history of violence highly suggests he's a very violent person.
Provocation should not be an issue in repeatedly punching a person in the face after knocking another persons teeth out earlier in the night.

Now if you had all of that and put it in the 'criminal convictions' box on a job application, or hell, got jailed for 6 months for doing it in your current job, think you'd have one to go back to? Why should football be any different?

[Michael]

Sources? Provocation? Motivation? You can't look at events in isolation. He deserves a sentence but to be banned from football? Nope.

Sauce here (http://www.football365.co.uk/story/0,17033,8652_3588537,00.html)

Not an isolated incident either.

Hotel Incident (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/4722645.stm)

That was three years ago and it cites tons of shit he did early in his career. He's since done this of course

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/495.$plit/C_71_article_1006083_image_list_image_list_item_0_ image.jpg

Maybe being thrown out of football might be a good thing for him and definitely for the game.

[totalvictory]

Why should football be any different?

Jobs are different to football. Anyone could do my job. Only Joey Barton can fulfil the role of Joey Barton.

[Internets]

Sauce here (http://www.football365.co.uk/story/0,17033,8652_3588537,00.html)You've linked to a football news page by mistake. I think you were after www.heinzketchup.com/

[Denning]

Jobs are different to football. Anyone could do my job. Only Joey Barton can fulfil the role of Joey Barton.

Bollocks. Football is either a hobby or a job. For him it's a job.

But no, it's cool, Gibby thinks celebrity's should be treated different to those of us who are not. Sorry, your ofcourse right, despite being a highly violent person, convicted of such crimes and given a lenient sentence, he shouldn't lose his job because he knocks a ball around a field.

[totalvictory]

Bollocks. Football is either a hobby or a job. For him it's a job.

But no, it's cool, Gibby thinks celebrity's should be treated different to those of us who are not. Sorry, your ofcourse right, despite being a highly violent person, convicted of such crimes and given a lenient sentence, he shouldn't lose his job because he knocks a ball around a field.

Yes that is exactly what I said, well reconstituted you weirdly over-angry person about someone you never met.

[Michael]

Bollocks. Football is either a hobby or a job. For him it's a job.

But no, it's cool, Gibby thinks celebrity's should be treated different to those of us who are not. Sorry, your ofcourse right, despite being a highly violent person, convicted of such crimes and given a lenient sentence, he shouldn't lose his job because he knocks a ball around a field.

I understand what he's saying too but in all honesty i don't think Newcastle could afford to sack him, who'd they replace him with? Lee Carsley has just moved to Birmingham....i'm all out of ideas.

[Denning]

Jobs are different to football. Anyone could do my job. Only Joey Barton can fulfil the role of Joey Barton.

Bollocks. Football is either a hobby or a job. For him it's a job.

But no, it's cool, Gibby thinks celebrity's should be treated different to those of us who are not. Sorry, your ofcourse right, despite being a highly violent person, convicted of such crimes and given a lenient sentence, he shouldn't lose his job because he knocks a ball around a field.

Yes that is exactly what I said, well reconstituted you weirdly over-angry person about someone you never met.

So, essentially what you said was he doesn't deserve the same consequences for being an extreamly violent person as you or I would have due to his job. I think it's not reconstructed too badly to be fair.

I really hate this celeb culture so if they are famous they don't get the same repercussions as the rest of us.

[totalvictory]

So, essentially what you said was he doesn't deserve the same consequences for being an extreamly violent person as you or I would have due to his job. I think it's not reconstructed too badly to be fair.

I really hate this celeb culture so if they are famous they don't get the same repercussions as the rest of us.

It's nothing to do with being a celebrity. And I said 'reconstituted'. Read first before engaging your flapping bingo wing and ham fists to mash away another snoozefest of a generic tabloid response.

[Denning]

It's nothing to do with being a celebrity. And I said 'reconstituted'. Read first before engaging your flapping bingo wing and ham fists to mash away another snoozefest of a generic tabloid response.

Ahh, again, your of course right. I'll take my bingo wings and ham fists and have an opinion on an issue the thread was created about elsewhere...
*closes door behind self*

[bik]

Oh shit off you reactionary git. You don't actually know what he did.

its well publicised and documented. just do some googles for pictures and reports.


Punched a bloke so hard it knocked his teeth out and straddled another bloke while punching him repeatedly in the face. Sums up what he did to be honest.

this.

i am certainly reactionary. its sickening what that brute continues to do.

chelsea sacked mutu for tarnishing the club with drug use activities. my opinion, which will no doubt be shot down in flames, is this is no different in terms of breaching a clubs (which i admit i don't know, but common sense would suggest it doesn't say "you can beat up folk as you please") policy of public behaviour and representing the club off the pitch

[Denning]

chelsea sacked mutu for tarnishing the club with drug use activities. my opinion, which will no doubt be shot down in flames, is this is no different in terms of breaching a clubs (which i admit i don't know, but common sense would suggest it doesn't say "you can beat up folk as you please") policy of public behaviour and representing the club off the pitch


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/orragan/missile-defense-launch.jpg

That was me shooting you down by the way.

[Michael]

My last post in the thread and thoughts to Barton as he enters assclench cellblock 4

http://i32.tinypic.com/hstl4m.jpg

[bik]

My last post in the thread and thoughts to Barton as he enters assclench cellblock 4

http://i32.tinypic.com/hstl4m.jpg

good shout

[ghost]

Class act towards the end of last season and him playing regularly was one of the reasons Newcastle's form turned round.

If the FA decide to ban him for life they should give us £6m, cheers.

[bik]

Class act towards the end of last season and him playing regularly was one of the reasons Newcastle's form turned round.

If the FA decide to ban him for life they should give us £6m, cheers.

personally i think its newcastle that will take the hard line here, and then take legal action against barton for breach of contract

[ghost]

Just like we did with Woodgate, Bowyer, Dyer and Acuna?

[bik]

New owners, although fair point

[ghost]

Oh, and Bellamy.

[one devils st.]

Remember, Bik, Newcastle are a big club, and a bigger joke. Nothing will happen to Barton unless there is some way of them sacking him and not paying him **** all, which could be done under a 'bringing the club into direpute' - type ruling.

Will never forgive the Toon for what they did to me childhood hero, Allardyce.

[egghead]

Just like we did with Woodgate, Bowyer, Dyer and Acuna?

the difference being that woodgate was not given a custodial sentence, only being given community service for the (much) lesser charge of affray, bowyer was never convicted of anything (despite probably not being exactly innocent, of course).

also. playing for leeds - being in a town centre punch up is part of the conditions of signing on isnt it?

[Jack Daniels]

Such a good boy is Joey. :rolleyes:

Stubbed a cigar out in a youth player's eye
Assaulted 15-year-old Everton supporter
Assaulted team-mate Ousmane Dabo at Manchester City
Sentenced to six months in prison for assualt outside McDonald's in Liverpool.

And as for his family,don't forget that his half brother is doing time for embedding an axe into a Black lads skull resulting in murder for no other reason than the lads colour :mad:.

Aye Gibby,you defend the vile piece of worthless scum.:(

And you wonder why our streets are being more dangerous by the day ffs!

Hope you arse bled when it was broken in on your 1st night inside Joey.

[ghost]

And as for his family,don't forget that his half brother is doing time for embedding an axe into a Black lads skull resulting in murder for no other reason than the lads colour :mad:.

He was brought up completely separate from his brother.

And you wonder why our streets are being more dangerous by the day ffs!

They're being made "more dangerous" because you believe whatever you read by the looks of things.

[Jack Daniels]

He was brought up completely separate from his brother.

Fair enough fella. Didn't know that.

They do lookalike though.

Be honest,they come across as not a nice set of people.

Barton is,and always will be,a thug.

Good luck for next season as well.

[Jack Daniels]

They're being made "more dangerous" because you believe whatever you read by the looks of things.

Fella...when i was a kid back in't day,we dare not say anything back to strangers,let alone swear at them.

Compare my time in the late 80s/early 90s to now.

Something has changed and not for the better.

One being a decline in standards.:(

[soul phill]

to be fair i bet joey "gobshite" barton hopes he gets kicked out newcastle :D if they get rid of him sunderland will sign him. Im sure he could learn a few new moves of keane.

[Good Soul]

Joey Barton is the biggest waste of talent in i've seen in years. The boy has been blessed with bags of talent but will never fulfill his potential .
What a waste

[bik]

anyone see the cctv footage yet of the city centre assault. its on you tube. its sickening

La putain de ta mère la mère la pute.

be warned,not pleasant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMorhNRmiDM)


pictures of team mateDABO after assault and report (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030520/Pictured-Disgraced-footballer-Joey-Bartons-horrific-attack-reveller-festive-night-out.html)

there is talk of him actually walking free today with a tag on. i despair.

Newcastle, sick this ban filth

[bik]

punch the living shit out of someone, and do this to them

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1531121.jpg

and recieve a 4 (FOUR) year SUSPENDED 4 month jail sentence.

what a deterrant. what a great example to set our impressionable youth

and Newcastle reckon thet this behaviour IS NOT GROSS MISCONDUCT


wtf/ a guy who worked in the same place i did was sacked immediately for being arrested in a street brawl, after he was set upon in the first instance. and no charges were pressed,

and barton gets this.

how is this justice?

[one devils st.]

the Sun reckons he has been let go from Toon. Apparently they had a clause that allowed them to cancel his contract if he was found guilty of the training ground assault.

[Michael]

Joey Barton is the biggest waste of talent in i've seen in years. The boy has been blessed with bags of talent but will never fulfill his potential .
What a waste

I almost agree with that, i don't think he's a huge talent..he's a decent player who could carry his own in the Premiership, never really had a Stevie G / Rooney / Lumpy / Rio spark to his game, he's a poor abusive racist mans Gareth Barry but sure he's wasted the chance and help he's had to move on from, he just can't help himself that he's a total ****.

I suspect he'll return to a Premier league club when he's released and do another 6 months of good behaviour before he does something else stupid, Newcastle won't let him go that easy either...those reports were wide of the mark that they've released him.

[ghost]

and Newcastle reckon thet this behaviour IS NOT GROSS MISCONDUCT

Actually, Newcastle's investigations and analysis are ongoing.

[bik]

Actually, Newcastle's investigations and analysis are ongoing.

i hope so, although on talkun sportun today it sounded like thay said what i said, that they knew about the assault on dabo when they bought him and thus couldn't take action.

but i hope i'm wroing and newcastle do the right thing. this thug should not do the privilidged job he does

[bik]

denied early release. :)

[bik]

released today and able to carry on playing football for Newcastle

total despair at newcastle united. they have gone from a team i had respect for and want to do well to a team i hope "do a Luton"

Keegan has lost all my repect for this

and what is worse he only served 2 month of a 6 month sentence. i fail to see how justice has been done in this case

Barton the **** released (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7528581.stm)

[Michael]

It's pretty obvious really Bik Newcastle wouldn't be willing to sack a player they paid £5.8m for just 18 months ago who also was bought with that assault charge hanging around his neck. I think Keggy will try and get him out of the headlines for a few months and see how it goes, i suspect he'll do something else though before Christmas linked to assault for looking at him in the street etc etc, he's one of those people who just never seems to learn however much counselling and help he may recieve. Seems to run in the family eh?

[bik]

what angers me if this was any regular joe with a standard job, he would most definatly have been sacked. he just plainly does not deserve to play in the professional game as he is an absolute right royal C***

[Michael]

Agreed, brings the game down i guess. I'd of liked Newcastle to of made a real example of him but like i said, they bought him knowing that this case would more than likely cause him to do time so it's understandable they aren't going to sack him any time soon. Have to see if he can keep his head down and not cause any more trouble.

[topcat]

He is a sh*t.

I heard on the radio before Newcastle fans are outraged and refusing to buy season tickets. Good on em!

[godonlyknows]

That was three years ago and it cites tons of shit he did early in his career. He's since done this of course

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/495.$plit/C_71_article_1006083_image_list_image_list_item_0_ image.jpg

He taped a guy's eye down? That's nuts.

In other news, who's shocked that a footy player beat someone up? Not I.

[egghead]

Agreed, brings the game down i guess. I'd of liked Newcastle to of made a real example of him but like i said, they bought him knowing that this case would more than likely cause him to do time so it's understandable they aren't going to sack him any time soon. Have to see if he can keep his head down and not cause any more trouble.

would be a little hypocritcal for Newcastle to sack him really, seeing as only a few seasons ago they had a player convicted of manslaughter playing up front for them, who'd also been charged with rape several times..

step up Patrick Kliuvert..

[Jack Daniels]

would be a little hypocritcal for Newcastle to sack him really, seeing as only a few seasons ago they had a player convicted of manslaughter playing up front for them, who'd also been charged with rape several times..

step up Patrick Kliuvert..

Did Kliuvert do a runner from the scene of the crash ala Lee Hughes?

I can't remember truth be told. I do recall some odd claim made by Kliuvert after the crash/death though.

[egghead]

Did Kliuvert do a runner from the scene of the crash ala Lee Hughes?

I can't remember truth be told. I do recall some odd claim made by Kliuvert after the crash/death though.

yep, pretty much, he ended up getting community service for killing someone in holland, their driving conviction rules are different to England, so he didnt go to jail. Nice Guy.

[bik]

would be a little hypocritcal for Newcastle to sack him really, seeing as only a few seasons ago they had a player convicted of manslaughter playing up front for them, who'd also been charged with rape several times..

step up Patrick Kliuvert..

he was charged but acquitted for the rape, and it was only once

the death crash was years ago (97) and newcastle had different manager/board in 2004.

however, i do think they were wrong in signing him, as are oldham for signing lee hughes

having to listen the debates about this all day, not one person i have heard say they think barton should play. even newcastle fans are in disbelief that he is allowed to stay, they don't want him at the club

[stan laurel]

i detest Barton...but if newcastle had sacked him, wouldnt he have then become a free agent to go play where ever he liked, and still rake in the coin?


i appreciate that most people 'do their time' etc and should be given a second chance,...but Barton had highly paid lawyers that got him an already reduced sentence (of which he served 1/3)..so in my eyes he hasnt actually been punished enough.


i dont think its newcastles fault, its the FA and FIFA's fault for not making an example of the bastard and banning him from the game for 2 years (wasn't Cantona banned for 7 months for an assault he wasnt actually charged with?).

Most other sports' governing bodies (athletics, for example) wouldnt tolerate this. Why do FIFA?

[ghost]

Tony Adams
Lee Hughes
Duncan Ferguson
Jermaine Pennant

All players with criminal records, all players that were then picked up by other clubs or continued playing for the same club.

Newcastle shouldn't be chastised any more than Arsenal, Oldham, Rangers, Everton, Birmingham or Liverpool.

Personally, I think Barton is a good player but do I want him at Newcastle? Not really.

[jesus_nightside_eclipse]

This guy is a poor man's Cantona. But then again, so is everyone.

[Jack Daniels]

Tony Adams
Lee Hughes
Duncan Ferguson
Jermaine Pennant



Jermaine Pennant.

Famously played for Birmingham while wearing an electronic tag, Pennant was given three months in the slammer after driving into a lamppost at 6am in the morning while 'tired and emotional'. Hilariously, when an officer of the law asked his name, Pennant gave the only sensible reply - 'Ashley Cole' - then claimed he lost control of the vehicle while changing his sat-nav. It didn't help matters that Pennant was also disqualified at the time, but claimed he thought his ban had been lifted after his aunt read aloud a letter from the DVLA.


Tony Adams

One of the leaders of Arsenal's famously enthusiastic and thirsty revellers before Arsene Wenger and his continental ways arrived, Adams served 58 days of a three-month prison sentence after driving his car into a wall while sozzled - to the tune of four times over the limit - in 1990. Adams admitted his alcoholism years later, and recovered with the soothing help of Caprice, the piano and Plato.

Lee Hughes

While the antics of Thomas, Adams and Pennant can spark laughter, this is one that contains absolutely no mirth. Hughes was sentenced to six years in jail for causing death by dangerous driving after he collided with another car and fled the scene of the accident before turning himself in 36 hours later. Douglas Graham, a passenger in the other car, was killed, while the driver Albert Frisby spent three months in hospital and was forced to use a wheelchair. As we all know, Hughes served a little under three years of that jail term, and was given a contract by Oldham upon his release last year.


http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8750_3589427,00.html


All drink driving offences except Big Dunc.

However,he deserved his time inside for smashing that Scottish player with an awful headbutt in a SPL game.

From Wiki below...

Ferguson has frequently found himself in trouble with the law.[citation needed] This has led to four convictions for assault; two arising from taxi–rank scuffles, one an altercation with a fisherman in an Anstruther pub and the most infamous: his on–field confrontation with Raith Rovers defender John McStay in 1994 while playing for Rangers.

He had an on-field altercation with Duncan Ferguson during a Scottish Premier Division encounter between Rangers and Raith Rovers at Ibrox Stadium on April 16, 1994. Ferguson, of Rangers, headbutted McStay, of the visiting Raith, in the south-west corner of the Ibrox pitch. Referee Kenny Clark and his linesmen missed the incident, hence Ferguson avoided a dismissal, but he was subsequently charged with assault and, as it was his fourth such conviction, he served three months in prison


More info as i search for the awful photo of McStays injuries....

Head banger
Duncan Ferguson vs. John McStay
1994
With a string of violent assaults under his belt, Glasgow Rangers superstar Duncan Ferguson was a one-man crime wave in Scottish football. His off-field rap sheet included head-butting a cop, punching out a fisherman and kicking the crap out of a man on crutches. But it was on-field überviolence that landed his angry ass in jail. Pissed that the ref had called a foul against him, Ferguson planted his cranium in defender John McStay’s kisser and tried to pass it off as an accident. Unfortunately for the six-foot-four striker—already on probation—the butt, thereafter known as the Glasgow Kiss‚ had been witnessed by more than 40,000 spectators, quite a few newspaper photographers and a national TV audience. Ferguson won a three-month sentence for assault in Glasgow’s notorious Barlinnie prison.

Found Big Dunc trying to throttle Steffen Freund instead

http://www.toffeeweb.com/images/PLAYERS/Ferguson&Freund.jpg

[bik]

none of them deserved to pull on a football shirt after what they did, the T**ts. especially talentless muppets like pennant


the cantona reference is an interesting one. 7 months was a long time.

also r. ferdinand. missed a piss test and missed - 8/9 months of soccer

smash someones face in on a training pitch and beat up someone pretty bad on a night out? - no ban

comes from a family including an axe murdering racist - priceless

[jesus_nightside_eclipse]

comes from a family including an axe murdering racist - priceless

Don't think what his brother did should really have any sway in judging his character.

[Train_of_Thought]

big dunc was an absolute legend!

[Joe]

I think he should be allowed to continue playing. his life off the field should have nothing to do with his life on the field.

[jesus_nightside_eclipse]

big dunc was an absolute legend!

He used to live in Rufford and his house once got broken into and he beat the robbers up and held them hostage until the police got there!

[ghost]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7563196.stm

Someone else deciding to go after him.

No doubt that it was a brainless, thoughtless, stupid attack but some of the stuff Tandy has come out with sounds ridiculous.

[PeteLMC]

big dunc was an absolute legend!

Too right.

The best one was when two fellas broke into his house and Big Dunc found them raiding his wine cellar. He clubbed one of them with a champagne bottle and then chased after the other one who was scaling his back wall, dragged him back inside and battered him until the police turned up.

He may have been inconsistent, ridden with injuries and a complete thug but I've not seen one man inspire a team and cause such pandemonium at a footie match. Plus his off-field charity work is second to none.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P81d5CTNJIg&feature=related

[ghost]

Too right.

The best one was when two fellas broke into his house and Big Dunc found them raiding his wine cellar. He clubbed one of them with a champagne bottle and then chased after the other one who was scaling his back wall, dragged him back inside and battered him until the police turned up.

He may have been inconsistent, ridden with injuries and a complete thug but I've not seen one man inspire a team and cause such pandemonium at a footie match. Plus his off-field charity work is second to none.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P81d5CTNJIg&feature=related

Ferguson and Shearer could have been amazing.

[Chanzo the Magnificent]

Anyone know where I can find a video of Samir Nasri tripping the **** up?

I've seen Barton's tackle (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wky8rvWDOM) and it was a strong tackle but tbh he got the ball but you really can just tell that it wasn't about that, and considering the **** smirk afterwards I'm really ****ing glad Nasri tripped him up, but I wanna see it. Can't find a video of the second incident.