Indie Bands you want to see @ 53?

[Marsha]

Now, now, now I thought we should have some equality here. So please put down your suggestions.............but please dont put Oasis or Blur as we all know that won't happen!

Mainly hotly tipped bands for the 400 and 1200 capacity would be good!:cool:

Fire away, if you please! GO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[cerilee]

nicky wire as a solo artist :) Not QUITE manics but the best bit...

[liveforever]

kings of leon

[The A-Train]

Maximo Park

[evilgingeremperor]

Armrug ;)

[The A-Train]

Armrug ;)

They'll easily sell 400 tickets...

[Markoos]

Get The Crimea back! They were amazing last time.

[evilgingeremperor]

They'll easily sell 400 tickets...

Easy! I could do that with my eyes closed.
Oh, wait, I'm asleep.
It's all a dream.



p.s. Eagles of Death Metal!
New Young Pony Club
The Noisettes

[Marsha]

Armrug ;)

:bow: :nobby:

[router]

The Decemberists
the Shins
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Arcade Fire
Okkervil river
Giant Drag

[router]

Howling Bells

[router]

The Lemonheads!

[Gandalf]

Hum <- Meant to be in all caps.

[Alcmene]

The Lemonheads!

So totally YES.

[liveforever]

The Enemy

[Marsha]

Howling Bells
played already

The Enemy

also played already

[Marsha]

The Decemberists
the Shins
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Arcade Fire
Okkervil river
Giant Drag

good list - there are a few in there we have tried for before!

[router]

try again! ;)

[evilgingeremperor]

good list - there are a few in there we have tried for before!

What about my list?

[catriona]

Someone Still Loves You Boris Yeltsin (touring in May - Puschen)
Shapes and Sizes (also touring in May - toutpartout)
Kimya Dawson (last week of June - Local Kid)
Scout Niblett (May - toutpartout) But I think this tour is booked now.
Harrisons (end of March) LOLZ! Only kidding!

[Stenic]

the Blood Arm (they were class when they supported maximo park a long time ago at 53)
Kubichek (see reason above)
Maximo Park (because that gig was 1 of the best ive ever seen at 53)
the Subways (again)
BRMC
the Young Knives (again)
We Are Scientists (again)
Be Your Own Pet
Nine Black Alps
Secret Machines
Art Brut
Hot Hot Heat
Two Gallants
Cold War Kids
the Hold Steady
Mystery Jets
the Duke Spirit
Air Traffic
Belle & Sebastian
Beck (i cant help but feel thats very unrealistic)

[James Uranus]

Get this band to play, they are from leeds.... they are doing a live session with radio1, i think they will be HUGE!!!!
www.myspace.com/middlemanpop

middleman btw....
cheers :D

[catriona]

Nine Black Alps

You're joking, right?

[fermium]

Howling Bells on their own - not supporting the now crap Futureheads :)
Joanna Newsom
Broadcast
Electrelane
Belle + Sebastian (for steve)
Andrew Bird
The Arcade Fire
The Shins
Rodrigo + Gabriela
Modest Mouse
Of Montreal

[Stenic]

You're joking, right?

no? im being quite serious, i like them even if no one as it appears does.

[marr]

kubichek
gofaster>>>
Dartz!
hot club de paris
the rakes
maximo park
the donnas.

[MrDykes]

Giant Drag

Haven't they split up?

[TMISv2.0]

The Locals...







hah!

[HedMag]

gofaster>>

...are playing the Mad Ferret on Sat Feb 17th.

with Y'r Impossible, Armrug and Buen Chico (from Leeds)

Details on our site - www.myspace.com/hedmagazine

[evilgingeremperor]

...are playing the Mad Ferret on Sat Feb 17th.

with Y'r Impossible, Armrug and Buen Chico (from Leeds)

Details on our site - www.myspace.com/hedmagazine

Awesome. I did not know that.

[Stenic]

[QUOTE=marr;564288]
gofaster>>>
QUOTE]

are they a different band or have Redcarsgofaster shortened their name?

Redcarsgofaster are another band who should play at 53 theyve been good whenever ive seen them support the KBC

[thejoker]

The Pipettes.

[megan]

BEARSUIT!
foals.
shut your eyes & you'll burst into flames
clap your hands & say yeah
deerhoof!

[MrDykes]

Pigeon Detectives
Duels
Clap Your Hands and Say Yeah
Bloc Party
Cribs
Longview
Sky Larkin

[Marsha]

Pigeon Detectives
Duels
Clap Your Hands and Say Yeah
Bloc Party
Cribs
Longview
Sky Larkin

Pigeon Detectives
Duels
Cribs
Longview

these have all played!

[cultmetfan]

how about Ned's Atomic Dustbin?

[Marsha]

how about Ned's Atomic Dustbin?

yeh,i was asking my boss about them the other day......would be superb i think.......the only problem with older bands is that the price is usually around the £15 plus mark!

still worth a shot though!

[cultmetfan]

yeh,i was asking my boss about them the other day......would be superb i think.......the only problem with older bands is that the price is usually around the £15 plus mark!

still worth a shot though!

I would have no problem paying that.

[MrDykes]

Pigeon Detectives
Duels
Cribs
Longview

these have all played!

i know the pigeon detectives have supported gigs, have they done one on their own? Won't you be rescheduling Duels gig that was suppose to be the last promo before christmas?

[Marsha]

i know the pigeon detectives have supported gigs, have they done one on their own? Won't you be rescheduling Duels gig that was suppose to be the last promo before christmas?

oh yeh i forgot they cancelled.......hopefully they will come back.....the drummer broke his arm i think.....

the PD havnt done their own, but im not sure they are big enough yet, but i could be wrong!

[Jack Daniels]

Hell Is For Heroes
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Jarvis Cocker
Neds Atomic Dustbin
New Young Pony Club


These are my 5.

[cultmetfan]

Hell Is For Heroes
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Jarvis Cocker
Neds Atomic Dustbin
New Young Pony Club


These are my 5.

good man!

at least there will be 2 of us there.
think it was 1994 the last time I saw them and IIRC I was one of only a few people who bought Bloodbrainvolume.
I also bought Once More,No More (the live reunion cd) from Action Records.

I have all their singles.
I love Ned's Atomic Dustbin.

[Marsha]

good man!

at least there will be 2 of us there.
think it was 1994 the last time I saw them and IIRC I was one of only a few people who bought Bloodbrainvolume.
I also bought Once More,No More (the live reunion cd) from Action Records.

I have all their singles.
I love Ned's Atomic Dustbin.

how cute, you dont strike me as the type!

i saw these at the guild hall in the early 90s they played with power of dreams and big red bus (i was there biggest groupie) and met them as i had backstage passes.....but they were tossers

[cultmetfan]

how cute, you dont strike me as the type!

i saw these at the guild hall in the early 90s they played with power of dreams and big red bus (i was there biggest groupie) and met them as i had backstage passes.....but they were tossers

I saw Power Of Dreams at Legends.
I liked that band a lot.


who were tossers?
Neds?


Leona,back in the day I had the shaved underneath haircut with long hair on top.

[Marsha]

I saw Power Of Dreams at Legends.
I liked that band a lot.


who were tossers?
Neds?


Leona,back in the day I had the shaved underneath haircut with long hair on top.

yeh,neds were not very nice to me and my mate.....but i still liked their music!

you had hair?

[cultmetfan]

yeh,neds were not very nice to me and my mate.....but i still liked their music!

you had hair?


yeah,I had hair,you cheeky wee scamp,
up until 1996 I think.
I cut it off 2 weeks after starting at Bosal.


me with the Vic and Bob t-shirt on,this is probably around Oct/Nov.1996

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/Cultmetfan/All_Night_Recording_at_Splash.jpg

[Marsha]

aawwww handsom, and with a cute smile;)

[cultmetfan]

aawwww handsom, and with a cute smile;)


and a hell of a lot slimmer too

that was my old band Wash,the band I played with for near enough 10 years before I joined Binary.
that pic was in Splash Studios in Wigan,we were recording a demo.
We recorded at night cos it was dirt cheap and there was only us in there.
I remember getting home as me mam was going to work.

[dogzilla]

Lightning Bolt

[Rodleroc]

The Rapture

[megan]

The Rapture

yes!

& helen love would be amazingly fun.

[MrDykes]

oh yeh i forgot they cancelled.......hopefully they will come back.....the drummer broke his arm i think.....

the PD havnt done their own, but im not sure they are big enough yet, but i could be wrong!

Correct about Duels, drummer has an arm injury of some sort.
The Pigeons are just about to go on tour and a few of the venues have sold out, they are combining this with supporting the kaiser cheifs, after that i reckon they'll have good following.

[Slideshow]

Slideshow


www.myspace.com/slideshowaccrington

[Pish]

Hot Chip

[bik]

grandaddy

[Stenic]

Correct about Duels, drummer has an arm injury of some sort.
The Pigeons are just about to go on tour and a few of the venues have sold out, they are combining this with supporting the kaiser cheifs, after that i reckon they'll have good following.

i saw PD when they supported Milburn at 53 + they were probably better than Milburn that night.

[error_error_error]

get ash to do another day, i never got a ticket :\

[Marsha]

get ash to do another day, i never got a ticket :\

yeh, cause its that easy!!!:D

e-bay for tickets!!!

[Dave Gate]

We did Ned's Atomic Dustbin in the old venue in around 1997 or 1998. Pulled all of 100 people. Nice guys though - even helped load their own gear out!

[esprit]

there are so many great bands out there (and listed here), but i fear wouldn't sell 1,000+ tickets on their own - so how about doing something like eat your own ears do in london, and get a great line-up together of a diverse bunch of acts (djs and bands)...

brakes
deerhoof
british sea power
soulwax AND 2 many djs
erol alkan

[Stenic]

ive heard Willy Mason has just announced a UK tour (quite a big tour aswell not just a London, Manchester, Glasgow, Birmingham tour a lot of Americans do) + hes playing venues in places like Leicester that hold about 300-400
i thought he was good when i saw him support Radiohead in Blackpool last year.

[Haggis]

Get the Coopers on again. That was gooooood :cool:

[Haggis]

Oh, and Thirteen Senses.

[Will Cherno]

Fortune Drive
The Noisettes
The Grates
Blood Red Shoes
Larrikin Love
Carbon Leaf
Forward Russia (again, I missed them last time)

And if the Shins is remotely possible...I would kiss each and everyone of you repeatedly.

[Marsha]

And if the Shins is remotely possible...I would kiss each and everyone of you repeatedly.

are you male? and how old?:donenowt:

[cerilee]

are you male? and how old?:donenowt:

Too young for you missy ;-)

[catriona]

I reckon The Shins will only be doing big cities next time they tour. But I could be wrong.

[cerilee]

British Sea Power put on an ace show. they played the canteen in barrow.

Kula Shaker are touring - they were the first band I ever saw! Swooning over Crispian Mills already....

[jub-jub bird]

get kula shaker on!!!

[Will Cherno]

are you male? and how old?:donenowt:


However old you want me to be ;)

Dont listen to that ceri-lee, she's just jealous.

But yes, the Shins would be amazing. I reckon a bigroomat53 show is possible.

[cerilee]

However old you want me to be ;)

Dont listen to that ceri-lee, she's just jealous.

But yes, the Shins would be amazing. I reckon a bigroomat53 show is possible.

jealous of what exactly hmmm? your pink converse? I have my own.

[Will Cherno]

Nah they fell to bits long ago *sob*

You're just jealous of me. You want to be me.

[cerilee]

Nah they fell to bits long ago *sob*

You're just jealous of me. You want to be me.

erm, yes will.

[marr]

...are playing the Mad Ferret on Sat Feb 17th.

with Y'r Impossible, Armrug and Buen Chico (from Leeds)

Details on our site - www.myspace.com/hedmagazine

goFASTER>> are cool, and me likes Armrug and it should be interesting to see the old band play.

[marr]

get Rialto to reform and play!





jk

[Marsha]

However old you want me to be ;)

Dont listen to that ceri-lee, she's just jealous.

But yes, the Shins would be amazing. I reckon a bigroomat53 show is possible.

far far too young for me........by about 10 years!:\

[Will Cherno]

I'm very mature and grown up though. Honest. Or I'd at least be willing to pretend if it'd increase chances of Shinsage.

[Marsha]

I'm very mature and grown up though. Honest. Or I'd at least be willing to pretend if it'd increase chances of Shinsage.

ha ha im sure you are.......but that wasnt really why i was asking! lol

anyhow, im going to stop this conversation before i turn into jude!:donenowt:

[Cuckoo For Caca]

anyhow, im going to stop this conversation before i turn into jude!:donenowt:


Eurgh, that would be horrid.

[megan]

Fortune Drive
The Noisettes
The Grates
Blood Red Shoes
Larrikin Love
Carbon Leaf
Forward Russia (again, I missed them last time)

And if the Shins is remotely possible...I would kiss each and everyone of you repeatedly.

crickey i remember when Blood REd sHoes played the Mitre. & look at them now!
I doubt Forward Russia would play Preston again.

get Dresden Dolls on.
seen as I've missed them 3 times now!

[cerilee]

crickey i remember when Blood REd sHoes played the Mitre. & look at them now!
I doubt Forward Russia would play Preston again.

get Dresden Dolls on.
seen as I've missed them 3 times now!

Oh Dresden Dolls were amazing in Glasgow. Saw them at the ABC Cinema or Cathouse or whatever it is called. No drummer though yet she still held the stage.

[Cuckoo For Caca]

Are Blood Red Shoes big now? I remember saying to the singer, when I was drunk, "It's always good when bands have fit members... it makes the performance look better." She thought I was a right twat.

[Will Cherno]

I got really drunk with them in London when they supported the Grates. Christ knows what I said. Pretty much all I remember is leaping around enthusiastically helping them load up their van.

Also, theres a really good band called Annuals getting quite a lot of talk at the minute, they're awesome. Very Arcade Fire ish. Add them to my list.

[liveforever]

soundtrack of our lives

[jez pike]

Interpol
Travis
Idlewild
Tom Mcrae
Josh Rouse.....please.

[megan]

Are Blood Red Shoes big now? I remember saying to the singer, when I was drunk, "It's always good when bands have fit members... it makes the performance look better." She thought I was a right twat.

aaah nice one.
they're pretty much signed now.
being bummed by the NME
& supported panic! at the disco not long ago so they're on their way

[Klute]

anyhow, im going to stop this conversation before i turn into jude!:donenowt:

You COW! I expect this shit off Beaker!

[Horse]

Ok the Forum Newbie has a shout:

I'll back the calls for Ned's, the new stuff sounded ok. I doubt it would sell as well as the stuffies but you never know. How about Therapy? whilst were taking a trip back in time?

Bloc Party (good call whoever said that)
Forward Russia (off to see them in Manc. on the 16th, but yes get them to 53degs.)
Get Cap, Wear Cape Fly
The Rapture
TestIcicles
The Young Knives

[Marsha]

Ned's - i agree!
Bloc Party (good call whoever said that)
Forward Russia (off to see them in Manc. on the 16th, but yes get them to 53degs.) - played twice already!
Get Cap, Wear Cape Fly
The Rapture
TestIcicles
The Young Knives - played already!

[Horse]

Ned's - i agree!
Bloc Party (good call whoever said that)
Forward Russia (off to see them in Manc. on the 16th, but yes get them to 53degs.) - played twice already!
Get Cap, Wear Cape Fly
The Rapture
TestIcicles
The Young Knives - played already!

Ouch, be gentle on the new boy! :D

[Will Cherno]

Didnt testicicles break up, like a thousand years ago?

And Bloc Party may be slightly out of reach.

[Horse]

Didnt testicicles break up, like a thousand years ago?

And Bloc Party may be slightly out of reach.

Ugh! I'm taking a beating tonight! Testicicles split!?! Gutted, maybe I was the only one that liked them :\ I'm obviously getting old and out of touch!

[Scrubinio]

The Annuals

The Little Ones

Midlake

Oh and, Arc Delta

[Blousey Brown]

Ugh! I'm taking a beating tonight! Testicicles split!?! Gutted, maybe I was the only one that liked them :\ I'm obviously getting old and out of touch!

Test Icicles did split, and no you're not the only one who liked them!
But, if you ever saw them live, you'd agree that they were pretty self destructive and were never really going to last very long.

[Roy Disco]

Test Icicles did split, and no you're not the only one who liked them!
But, if you ever saw them live, you'd agree that they were pretty self destructive and were never really going to last very long.

I saw them, they wern't that good.

Bands that would be good to be playing at this 53 degrees place:

Architecture in Helsinki (Christ knows when they're coming round, though.)
Built to Spill (they're coming round soon, like.)
To My Boy (Probably being NME-bummed by now?)

Oh. Not an indie band, but Edan's over for the ATP vs. the fans thing. If there's any chance at ALL of getting him on before he plays that (After it is EXAM TIME), I will RUN over the pennines, and give you all gifts of chocolates/dry humps.

[Marsha]

I will RUN over the pennines, and give you all gifts of chocolates/dry humps.

ha ha, what the hell is that then?

[Unadulterated]

kubichek
Definitely. Kubichek! are class.

[Roy Disco]

ha ha, what the hell is that then?

He's a rapper. And is bloody amazing.

www.myspace.com/eeddaann (www.myspace.com/eeddaann).

Rock and Roll is one of the SONGS OF 05. And. Just listen to him.

Though I don't know if he'd pull in enough to be able to play somewhere like Preston. Hm.

[Alcmene]

I would like to see The Killers.

[Casey]

.

But yes, the Shins would be amazing. I reckon a bigroomat53 show is possible.

Agreed.

[James Uranus]

has any1 heard hadouken! ?
i like them, grimey indie :D

[Scrubinio]

Cold War Kids - Pleaseeeee

[esprit]

Deerhoof will bring their 'Friends Opportunity' tour to the UK in April, according to drummer Greg Saunier.

Source: www.nme.com (http://www.nme.com/news/deerhoof/26381)

Supported Flaming Lips and Radiohead! They are amazing!

[stagger]

midlake
mica p hinson
new model army
grinderman
billy bragg
but mainly
grinderman !

[Cuckoo For Caca]

Deerhoof will bring their 'Friends Opportunity' tour to the UK in April, according to drummer Greg Saunier.

Source: www.nme.com (http://www.nme.com/news/deerhoof/26381)

Supported Flaming Lips and Radiohead! They are amazing!

I'd go to that. Maybe.

[shed]

has any1 heard hadouken! ?
i like them, grimey indie :D


get this band on... seen them in Manchester a couple months back supporting Metric... Metric were plop.. Hadouken were awesome.

[Roy Disco]

Deerhoof will bring their 'Friends Opportunity' tour to the UK in April, according to drummer Greg Saunier.

Source: www.nme.com (http://www.nme.com/news/deerhoof/26381)

Supported Flaming Lips and Radiohead! They are amazing!

Yes please.

[cerilee]

notoriosly hard to get on but belle and sebastian would be an ace catch. so would idlewild. but it depends on the size of the band, and a host of other things.

[lip up fatty]

catch it kebabs,ska legends from barnsley:bow: or at least zen baseball bat from st helens way! played at the mill once and would love to return to preston! pretty please!:)

[marr]

Put the Rumble strips on please!

they are one of the best bands around at the minute theyre getting bigger all the time!

[Cuckoo For Caca]

Next time Echo & The Bunnymen tour, get 'em on.

[Marsha]

Put the Rumble strips on please!

they are one of the best bands around at the minute theyre getting bigger all the time!

they have been on before, maybe even twice!

[baloogabassist]

Forward, russia!

[Marsha]

Forward, russia!

ha ha they have also played atleast twice! :)

[evilgingeremperor]

Armrug!

[Marsha]

they have already pla..........oh wait!

[evilgingeremperor]

yeh, i can read you like a book! i just bloody knew that is what it would be. made me chuckle though!:cool:

You could've said "They've already played" again.

[megan]

low please =)

[joe ersatz]

didn't they split up?

[dogzilla]

Nope. They have a new album out and I'm seeing them at ATP

[sion]

can i answer none here please?

[JoeNarcotic]

Artic monkeys!
and, Klaxons

[Dave Gate]

Klaxons we've done. Artic Monkeys are already playing far bigger venues than us.

[JoeNarcotic]

Klaxons we've done. Artic Monkeys are already playing far bigger venues than us.

Aww

[catriona]

Why do you keep saying that bands have already played? It surely doesn't mean you shouldn't put them on again.

It's not like everyone can go in a time machine and go back in time to see them.

Oh and put Misty's Big Adventure on!

[Marsha]

Why do you keep saying that bands have already played? It surely doesn't mean you shouldn't put them on again.

quite true, but we are just letting folk know we have had them before. we do get some bands back to play - for example Little Man Tate who will be returning for the third time, for a FREE gig

watch this space!;)

[JoeNarcotic]

Why do you keep saying that bands have already played? It surely doesn't mean you shouldn't put them on again.

It's not like everyone can go in a time machine and go back in time to see them.

Oh and put Misty's Big Adventure on!

So true!

but yeah I've never even heard of that band! :huh: what are they like?

[Dave Gate]

Misty's Big Adventure are a lot of fun; but I don't think they're yet big enough to pull a large enough crowd.

The reason that I mention that we've already done Klaxons is that it's likely that their career tragectory will mean that next time they tour they will be doing bigger venues than us. That's what happened with band like Kaiser Chiefs on the back of an NME tour.

[catriona]

Misty's Big Adventure are a lot of fun; but I don't think they're yet big enough to pull a large enough crowd.

I think they're big enough for a PROMO night. There was a big (3-4 page) article about them in this month's Plan B and they played Academy 3 in Manchester a while back.

Having a pop at Franz Ferdinand got them a bit bigger.

Anyway, you should put them on because they're great, not because of how big a crowd they will pull.

[Marsha]

I think they're big enough for a PROMO night. There was a big (3-4 page) article about them in this month's Plan B and they played Academy 3 in Manchester a while back.

Having a pop at Franz Ferdinand got them a bit bigger.

Anyway, you should put them on because they're great, not because of how big a crowd they will pull.cheers for the advice love

[catriona]

cheers for the advice love

Always happy to help!

[godonlyknows]

Anyway, you should put them on because they're great, not because of how big a crowd they will pull.

Hee hee.

HEAVEN ****ING FORBID.

I listened to Desert Island Discs this week and it was Andy Kershaw and the things he did to try to get interesting and exciting high quality new music into the ears of young people shows this place up a one bit fat charlatan made up of a bunch of smaller charlatans.

That is, unless the motivation for this place is precisely not that, and in fact the personal professional advancement and/or gratification of the people involved. Which is fine, by the way.

"We don't give these young people what they want, we give them what they don't know they want yet."

I was riled for a moment there, but I have returned to my indifferent state.

Proceed in your ridiculous business.

[Russ]

Anyway, you should put them on because they're great, not because of how big a crowd they will pull.

and pay them in lollipop rays and pixie dust

in other news.. hot club de paris!

[catriona]

and pay them in lollipop rays and pixie dust

in other news.. hot club de paris!

Eh?

[Marsha]

are you saying we should put gigs on that no one will turn up to! it does happen occasionally, but we would rather the place be full. we are a charity and fund the SU, so we have to generate an income.
#
plus we do put bands on the people want to see. these may, however, not be the bands you would choose to see. im very sorry if theis upsets you.

we have had quite a few sell out gigs this accademic year - and there will be some more to come.

if you choose not to come to the gigs here then thats fine, (it is diffucult to please all the people all the time!) as there are loads of other places in preston who put on great gigs that might include music which is more to your taste.

[catriona]

are you saying we should put gigs on that no one will turn up to! it does happen occasionally, but we would rather the place be full. we are a charity and fund the SU, so we have to generate an income.
#
plus we do put bands on the people want to see. these may, however, not be the bands you would choose to see. im very sorry if theis upsets you.

we have had quite a few sell out gigs this accademic year - and there will be some more to come.

if you choose not to come to the gigs here then thats fine, (it is diffucult to please all the people all the time!) as there are loads of other places in preston who put on great gigs that might include music which is more to your taste.

Not at all.

Anyway, as I said, Misty's are getting more and more popular all the time. They played packed out gigs in Leeds and Manchester recently, are getting loads of coverage in magazines, and I think they would go down really well in Preston. Plus, they've played Lancaster 3 times so I'd expect people would travel from there to see them.

I'm suggesting 53 Degrees put them on because I know Russ will be too tight to pay their fee.

[Marsha]

Not at all.

Anyway, as I said, Misty's are getting more and more popular all the time. They played packed out gigs in Leeds and Manchester recently, are getting loads of coverage in magazines, and I think they would go down really well in Preston. Plus, they've played Lancaster 3 times so I'd expect people would travel from there to see them.

I'm suggesting 53 Degrees put them on because I know Russ will be too tight to pay their fee.well, i cant answer that question!;)

plus my reply wasnt aimed at you - it was your band member!

[godonlyknows]

... stuff...

No, you're right. It should not be the case that the main university venue should be primarily supportive of new, interesting and diverse music.

That would just be absolute madness.

[catriona]

No, you're right. It should not be the case that the main university venue should be primarily supportive of new, interesting and diverse music.

That would just be absolute madness.

LOLZ.

[Marsha]

No, you're right. It should not be the case that the main university venue should be primarily supportive of new, interesting and diverse music.

That would just be absolute madness.you really are making me laugh now!

[catriona]

well, i cant answer that question!;)

plus my reply wasnt aimed at you - it was your band member!

Oh. Your retorts are normally aimed at me so I naturally assumed...

Anyway, Dave's right. (And I don't often say that!)

[Marsha]

Oh. Your retorts are normally aimed at me so I naturally assumed...

Anyway, Dave's right. (And I don't often say that!)but why would we put bands on that no-one would come to. we have to get the happy medium of new and interesting bands, who are tipped for the top, and stuff we know would sell well.

like i said earlyer to dave, you guys might just have different taste, and so dont like the majority of the bands we put on!

[catriona]

but why would we put bands on that no-one would come to. we have to get the happy medium of new and interesting bands, who are tipped for the top, and stuff we know would sell well.

like i said earlyer to dave, you guys might just have different taste, and so dont like the majority of the bands we put on!

Where did Dave ask you to put bands on that no-one would come to?

[Russ]

I'm suggesting 53 Degrees put them on because I know Russ will be too tight to pay their fee.

i sure do hate to give away any of my pile of gold

[catriona]

i sure do hate to give away any of my pile of gold

I know you do, Russ.

[Dave Gate]

I was talking to Misty's management last year and I mentioned that I'd seen them at The Adelphi (Bad Apple Club). Their management said to me that they probably wouldn't pull a big enough crowd in any venue bigger than that in Preston just yet. They did about 40-50 people at Bad Apple I think.

[godonlyknows]

but why would we put bands on that no-one would come to. we have to get the happy medium of new and interesting bands, who are tipped for the top, and stuff we know would sell well.

like i said earlyer to dave, you guys might just have different taste, and so dont like the majority of the bands we put on!
If you consider it your specific mission to put on...

1) bands that are as famous as possible
2) bands that are likely to one day be famous

... then the difference is not one of taste, but of ideology.

I think that music is a way for people to do art at each other, which can cause a range of emotions including joy and sadness. You seem to think it's a way to get people into buildings.

In that capacity, I'm sure you do your job very well, but don't expect not to take shit for it. Here look. Some shit.

In my opinion, the UNIVERSITY venue (in general), the thing that used to house actually exciting and interesting off-mainstream bands, where you could once see The Fall, or The Mothers of Invention, or Pavement, or even the early Clash (not because they were tipped for the top) should be the place to play if you're not necessarily what every last NME reading Marlboro Light smoker wants to hear.

The thing is, these kids really don't know any better. It's playing them what they want to hear before they know what's out there. Obviously they've all decided the Kaiser Chiefs are the world's finest band. They don't know the options! They think they're choosing between them and their dads' Led Zeppelin records.

The direct effects of running venues according to the pre-assessed popularity of a band is extremely obvious to anyone who doesn't consider popularity to be the point of art.

Which, looking around the Preston music "scene" at the moment, I really don't know why I bother to say anything on the subject.

[HedMag]

but why would we put bands on that no-one would come to. we have to get the happy medium of new and interesting bands, who are tipped for the top, and stuff we know would sell well.

I see both sides of this argument. But I think the main objection comes from gig goers and band types when the bands that play 53 Degrees are often very generic, indie types (I am talking mainly about the promo nights in this context - and I understand that this suits the general 'students are a bit thick so aren't that accepting of more diverse or challenging music' ideology)

But case in point - the Draytones - last week. Upstairs at 53 was fairly busy whilst they were playing (at least round the bar area) and it was cheap entry/drinks too - but no one actually went near the dancefloor / front section. They were fairly run of the mill indie - nothing remotely challenging about their music. But the students/locals didn't lap it up. I saw The Aliens die a (allbeit slightly better) death earlier in the year.

As for Misty's - they are a quality act. And they will no doubt play Preston again. Would have been nice to see it on the 53 stage for sure.

And did someone mention Zombina a few weeks ago? They are now booked to play for us at the Mad Ferret in May.

Before that we have Nice Peter returning from Chicago, USA to headline an all day gig on April 1st. He'd go down a storm at the University (he ended up naked on stage when he played Sunderland University) but we felt it better to keep it 'real' and play at Kolor with an array of Preston's finest bands - all still for free.

Just realised that this post may be seen as an 'advertisement' - didn't mean it to be!! End of the day. 53 Degrees is a hell of a lot better than it was last year in terms of its liason with bands. Thanks for that must go to Leona and Ceri for forging those links and maintaining happy liasons.

[bik]

in other news.. hot club de paris!

one the best new records we broke at where's mavis and the kids still don't get it. the wangs

[Marsha]

cheers hedmag, im not very good at the arguement things. you summed it up nicely.

as for bands like Zombina, i personally would come to kolor to see them, and i will be in the corner nursing a bottle of rose. however, if they were at 53 then i probably wouldnt make the effort (as i dont always want to go to my place of work on a night off!)

the gigs i do like to see at 53 are bands that i wouldnt really be able to see at any other preston venue - such as klaxons, napalm death, ash etc........for me it makes it a bit more of a special occasion.

anyone who knows me will know that i can be seen a most gigs around preston and i am a big supporter!

this is my personal oppinion, not that of 53!

anyhow i love my job! ;)

[catriona]

I see both sides of this argument. But I think the main objection comes from gig goers and band types when the bands that play 53 Degrees are often very generic, indie types (I am talking mainly about the promo nights in this context - and I understand that this suits the general 'students are a bit thick so aren't that accepting of more diverse or challenging music' ideology)

But case in point - the Draytones - last week. Upstairs at 53 was fairly busy whilst they were playing (at least round the bar area) and it was cheap entry/drinks too - but no one actually went near the dancefloor / front section. They were fairly run of the mill indie - nothing remotely challenging about their music. But the students/locals didn't lap it up. I saw The Aliens die a (allbeit slightly better) death earlier in the year.

As for Misty's - they are a quality act. And they will no doubt play Preston again. Would have been nice to see it on the 53 stage for sure.

And did someone mention Zombina a few weeks ago? They are now booked to play for us at the Mad Ferret in May.

Before that we have Nice Peter returning from Chicago, USA to headline an all day gig on April 1st. He'd go down a storm at the University (he ended up naked on stage when he played Sunderland University) but we felt it better to keep it 'real' and play at Kolor with an array of Preston's finest bands - all still for free.

Just realised that this post may be seen as an 'advertisement' - didn't mean it to be!! End of the day. 53 Degrees is a hell of a lot better than it was last year in terms of its liason with bands. Thanks for that must go to Leona and Ceri for forging those links and maintaining happy liasons.

I don't get your point. Other than you put on better bands than 53 Degrees (in my opinion). And I applaud you for that!

I'm not sure how you're affording to put on Zombina as Russ said they were really expensive. But I reckon you should put Misty's on too. I would travel to Preston for that even though they play in Manchester regularly.

[godonlyknows]

I don't get your point. Other than you put on better bands than 53 Degrees (in my opinion). And I applaud you for that!

I'm not sure how you're affording to put on Zombina as Russ said they were really expensive. But I reckon you should put Misty's on too. I would travel to Preston for that even though they play in Manchester regularly.

How many decent gigs have you booked us today? I WANT RESULTS!

Also, Hedmag, when Zombina ATS play at your gig, I recommend that you put them on at roughly the time you tell them.

[Russ]

one the best new records we broke at where's mavis and the kids still don't get it. the wangs

i can see how it might to be dancefloor stuff.. beyond sometimesit'sbetter.. which i think we should be getting tatod on our wangs (see what i did there)

glorious album though i've had Bonded by Blood on repeat all afternoon...

[Marsha]

I don't get your point. Other than you put on better bands than 53 Degrees (in my opinion). And I applaud you for that!

exactly, each of the different venues is able to put on different types of music. i say thats great for the city! i go to almost every kolor gig. but then im not a music snob..........i just like to see live music.

if you dont like the bands at 53 then dont come - if you do like the bands at kolor then go there - its simple really

[Dave Gate]

Could I just point out that we have done Hot Club de Paris (admittedly as a support band)

[bik]

who did they play with?

[HedMag]

I don't get your point. Other than you put on better bands than 53 Degrees (in my opinion). And I applaud you for that!Gee thanks... we have The Mekkits from Manchester and Voo from Liverpool on April 8th - dunno if they will float yer boat though. Booking bands is a hit and miss world as you well know - and I guess the slaps of the wrist Leona would get for poor turnouts/bad bands are a bit harder than ones I get off Kolor/Mad Ferret.(at the moment)

I'm not sure how you're affording to put on Zombina as Russ said they were really expensive.Fill a room with enough people - put good bands on - let them buy alcohol all night - check till receipts. Its not rocket science.

Also, Hedmag, when Zombina ATS play at your gig, I recommend that you put them on at roughly the time you tell them.That saga will run and run. Don't worry David... they will be the time slot they are allocated if it kills me. We won't be having 20+ acts play that day!

[godonlyknows]

if you dont like the bands at 53 then dont come - if you do like the bands at kolor then go there - its simple really
Obviously.

It's kinda like the public library saying "If you don't like the books in here... don't come! There is no reason to complain. Simply go to a commercial bookstore who will fulfill your needs."

Do you actually simply not accept the idea that a University venue ought really to have other motivations than outright commercial concerns, and satisfying the immediate desires of the perceived customer base?

It's fine if you don't, honestly... that's just a position that you have which is fine. It's this aggravating bullshit pretence that you are all doing something that's actually good for people in that stupid big shiny shed that makes me feel a little ill.

[leavemypuppiesalone]

Hot Club de Paris supported We Are Scientists.

[Hopkin Green Frog]

It's this aggravating bullshit pretence that you are all doing something that's actually good for people in that stupid big shiny shed that makes me feel a little ill.

And you, Dave, live a musical and artistic life entirely free of aggravating bullshit pretence? Of course you do. Stop being a dick, you're better than this.












*rubs chin*

[godonlyknows]

Gee thanks... we have The Mekkits from Manchester and Voo from Liverpool on April 8th - dunno if they will float yer boat though. Booking bands is a hit and miss world as you well know - and I guess the slaps of the wrist Leona would get for poor turnouts/bad bands are a bit harder than ones I get off Kolor/Mad Ferret.(at the moment)

That's a clear indication of my point... what kind of an absurd situation is it when a couple of bars that are run specifically to make money are doing a better job at keeping an open mind and trying out new bands and giving all kinds of music a chance than a university.

That saga will run and run.
Yes it will... your punishment is endless digs. I don't mind really, because we had a fun day... and we saw some good bands. DON'T DO IT AGAIN.

[Russ]

Obviously.

It's kinda like the public library saying "If you don't like the books in here... don't come! There is no reason to complain. Simply go to a commercial bookstore who will fulfill your needs."

Do you actually simply not accept the idea that a University venue ought really to have other motivations than outright commercial concerns, and satisfying the immediate desires of the perceived customer base?

It's fine if you don't, honestly... that's just a position that you have which is fine. It's this aggravating bullshit pretence that you are all doing something that's actually good for people in that stupid big shiny shed that makes me feel a little ill.


from where i stand it seems to me that

there have been several FREE gigs over the past year where uknown bands from unknown places have played and given the same promotional attention as any mother gig at 53... this being the role that you suggest a university venue should be filling.

50% of the bands who play the 'promo' clubnight are new, up & coming and in 'ticket selling vehicle' terms are about as effective as car with cows for wheels.. 53degrees pays them, and puts them on in a room filled with 400 people.. (or from another perspective, puts them on a stage in a town for anyone curious to see them

53degrees employes a lot of people, these people like to get pay cheques rather than nice little notes saying 'sorry mate, no cash this week, but weren't that band last wednesday ****ing ace!

[Russ]

That's a clear indication of my point... what kind of an absurd situation is it when a couple of bars that are run specifically to make money are doing a better job at keeping an open mind and trying out new bands and giving all kinds of music a chance than a university.


overheads?

and let's make sure that we keep the distinction between the bars objectives, and the objectives of the hobbiest promoters who earn their rent with a day job and thus are free to run gigs without the pressure of turning a profit

[godonlyknows]

ass-kissing
We are debating here... you know... on an internet discussion forum for having debates on.

[Marsha]

Obviously.

It's kinda like the public library saying "If you don't like the books in here... don't come! There is no reason to complain. Simply go to a commercial bookstore who will fulfill your needs."

Do you actually simply not accept the idea that a University venue ought really to have other motivations than outright commercial concerns, and satisfying the immediate desires of the perceived customer base?

It's fine if you don't, honestly... that's just a position that you have which is fine. It's this aggravating bullshit pretence that you are all doing something that's actually good for people in that stupid big shiny shed that makes me feel a little ill.we do have other motivations, as we are a music venue, a club night venue, a comedy venue, an exhibition venue, part of the students union etc etc.

like i have said before, and i will say again, from what i gather by reading what you out on here (as i dont know you in real life) you are quite particular in your music tastes, which is good, but a lot of other people do like the music we put on - both students and public.

i personally have worked hard to put on local bands (i dont book any of the signed bands, just the local ones), there was no metal at 53 before i started. now we have a monthly local night and off the back of that we have managed to book porcupine tree, cradle of filth, napalm death plus others. these are bands YOU probably dont like, but there are many folk who do!

so, have we never put any band on the bill that you would be tempted to come down and see? maybe you should set me a challenge and i will see what i can do.

we do look into booking bands each and every day..........sometimes its not to simple to just book whoever you want!

who do you think would work here then? we could always hire the room ourselves and take all the financial risk / gain ourself! you up for it?

[bik]

there was no experimental jazz either before leona started at 53 degrees.

now at least there have been some good world class jazz funk acts, like call to arms and spiral tower played there.

[catriona]

so, have we never put any band on the bill that you would be tempted to come down and see? maybe you should set me a challenge and i will see what i can do.

You put on Envelopes once and I came to see them so you can't say I don't support 53 Degrees when you put on acts I actually like. I had to watch an awful support act that night though. I think they're called Star something or other. You know, the type of band Steve Lamacq drools all over. I think they supported Envelopes in Lancaster too.

Which raises the question: where the **** have Envelopes got to?

[Marsha]

You put on Envelopes once and I came to see them so you can't say I don't support 53 Degrees when you put on acts I actually like. I had to watch an awful support act that night though. I think they're called Star something or other. You know, the type of band Steve Lamacq drools all over. I think they supported Envelopes in Lancaster too.

Which raises the question: where the **** have Envelopes got to?good im glad you enjoyed.

yeh that star 27 band...........ive heard of them before, but i actually think they are really good! and that bass player is dam hot;)

not too sure about the envelopes though. some make it and some do not. some are good and some are not!

[catriona]

not too sure about the envelopes though. some make it and some do not. some are good and some are not!

I think they're perfect pop. Maybe they're working on their second album. They played some new stuff at 53 Degrees and it didn't sound as good n my opinion but we'll see. They are on the same label as Good Shoes and The Knife so you'd have thought they'd have a decent amount of pulling power in terms of press and venues.

Hmmm. I'm going investigate.

Star27! That's the one. Their bass player gave me nightmares.

[Marsha]

oh, and just incase anyone is wondering why i have been on here so much whilst at work.....its because the sysyen has been down for must of the day!:cool:

[bik]

Star27! That's the one. Their bass player gave me nightmares.

this is where spidey russ should appear, but alas....

[catriona]

oh, and just incase anyone is wondering why i have been on here so much whilst at work.....its because the sysyen has been down for must of the day!:cool:

I hadn't noticed any difference :cool:

[Marsha]

I hadn't noticed any difference :cool:hee hee im usually on at night time, as i have no life you see! but during the day i just usually put any work related stuff!

i have never had a propper debate before! i feel quite refreshed now its all over. i dont normally argue with people you see, as im always right, so there is no need!:donenowt:

i am 100% addicted!

[bard apple]

who do you think would work here then? we could always hire the room ourselves and take all the financial risk / gain ourself! you up for it?

As a hobbiest promoter who has done this I can say the costs are astounding, and we'll never do it again.

As I've said before, 53 is there to serve the student community and not act as some outpost for the LOLcal music scene. If you were a student at UCLAN and into getting pissed and pulling slappers. Leona booking OKKERVILLE RIVER every week wouldn't do you much good!

Having said that I do agree with what Dave's saying about taking a chance on stuff especially new music and having a responsibility to help make UCLAN/Preston a throughly modern and exciting University, you'll never get a reputation for booking The Bluetones and Shed 7 every year, but you'll probably make money.

Like Mr Miagi said it's all about bawrence!!

[Marsha]

As a hobbiest promoter who has done this I can say the costs are astounding, and we'll never do it again.

As I've said before, 53 is there to serve the student community and not act as some outpost for the LOLcal music scene. If you were a student at UCLAN and into getting pissed and pulling slappers Leona booking OKKERVILLE RIVER every week wouldn't do you much good!

Having said that I do agree with what Dave's saying about taking a chance on stuff especially new music and having a responsibility to help make UCLAN/Preston a throughly modern and exciting University, you'll never get a reputation for booking The Bluetones and Shed 7 every year, but you'll probably make money.

Like Mr Miagi said it's all about bawrence!!The Bluetones was a private promoter - so they hired the venue and booked the band themselves. shed 7 havnt played have they! but i would love it if they did!

i had to re-read that as i thought you were calling me a slapper! oh wait...........

[godonlyknows]

hee hee im usually on at night time, as i have no life you see! but during the day i just usually put any work related stuff!

i have never had a propper debate before! i feel quite refreshed now its all over. i dont normally argue with people you see, as im always right, so there is no need!:donenowt:

i am 100% addicted!

Heh... well, I'm not getting at you personally. I'm just keyboard hero-ing whilst bored.

My band will rule again soon, by the way. Put us on in september. ;)

We will bring 3 people. Great people though.

[bard apple]

i had to re-read that as i thought you were calling me a slapper! oh wait...........

ARF!

No I was using the bands as examples not meant literally!

Not quite sure how it being a private promoter makes any difference though, it's not like the public are aware of this!

[catriona]

Heh... well, I'm not getting at you personally. I'm just keyboard hero-ing whilst bored.

My band will rule again soon, by the way. Put us on in september. ;)

We will bring 3 people. Great people though.

He's telling the truth!

[bard apple]

My band will rule again soon, by the way. Put us on in september. ;)

HEY!! There's a list you know. (we're on it..... last place mind, behind the Locals!!)

[bik]

Star27! That's the one. Their bass player gave me nightmares.


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g76/jonnysus/Russ.jpg



i thought it did look like dan said..."if you want to pull slappers like Leona" at first glance...i thought to myself, jeez, he's got balls.
but seriously..

bands like porcupine tree are getting 53 a good reputation of putting on non commercial acts and i hope it continues. its a fine line between being seen as a venue who takes isks and loses money and putting on bluetones and safe bands to make the money. in my opinion, 53 is doing a valient attempt to balance this.

[catriona]

HEY!! There's a list you know. (we're on it..... last place mind, behind the Locals!!)

I think we're on the other list. You know, the one of bands that they never want to put on. I think Condor Moments may also be on it.

[bard apple]

i thought it did look like dan said..."if you want to pull slappers like Leona" at first glance...i thought to myself, jeez, he's got balls.
but seriously.

Put a full stop in. But honestly THAT says more about you two than it does me.

And talking about balls, that picture ^ up there is wrong!

*mine eyes*

[Russ]

I think Condor Moments may also be on it.

i'd be very surprised at that

[bard apple]

I think we're on the other list. You know, the one of bands that they never want to put on. I think Condor Moments may also be on it.

No, no that's the list we're on. I've seen it, it big and has Red Letters. I think 53 think they've put us on because there's a big red line through all our names.

[Marsha]

hee hee you are all on my list...........but it has nothing to do with bands!;)

[catriona]

No, no that's the list we're on. I've seen it, it big and has Red Letters. I think 53 think they've put us on because there's a big red line through all our names.

Oh I see! I blame Duffy for pretending Superkings could attract 40 people to a gig that cost £6 and that The Reseach were headlining. LOLZ.

If I was still promoting I'd put The Lolcals on. I think they're ace.

[Marsha]

yes i made a mistake! but im only human:\

[catriona]

i'd be very surprised at that

I wasn't serious.

[Marsha]

hee hee couldnt resist

[Russ]

I wasn't serious.

it's hard to tell from down here

[catriona]

it's hard to tell from down here

Where? The gutter?

[Russ]

Where? The gutter?

yes.. underneath a pile of horse shit

[Hopkin Green Frog]

We are debating here... you know... on an internet discussion forum for having debates on.

Don't see where the ass-kissing was, David. I was simply (in the spirit of debate you're so into) pointing out the absurdity of your argument.

Out of interest, do you honestly believe there's no difference in running a venue the size of 53 and putting on a couple of bands at Kolor or Mad Ferrit?

[godonlyknows]

Out of interest, do you honestly believe there's no difference in running a venue the size of 53 and putting on a couple of bands at Kolor or Mad Ferrit?
Obviously I'm not suggesting there is not a difference between the two things there, Patrick.

I actually basically disagree in principle with any Uni having a venue of that size at all if its only way to fill the ****ing thing is to put on mainstream commercial bands.

What concerns me is... say there was a new and exciting band... like the Mothers of Invention, or Pavement, or whatever.

I can understand that in a commercial environment a band like that may not be expected to survive, and that's nobody's fault... but I think that given that the government/lottery basically does exactly nothing for bands as it is... it seems to be that one of the last bastions of getting audiences for "weird bands" is the Universities.

So quite what the thinking is behind giving a university a venue so big you can't run it unless you do something mainstream with it I DO NOT KNOW.

How does your band survive this? You change the sound of your band so they sound like the Libertines, Yeah yeah yeahs, Kooks or the Zutons.

And I think this is a shame.

[Marsha]

hi honey, youre back. good day at the office?

[Hopkin Green Frog]

Obviously I'm not suggesting there is not a difference between the two things there, Patrick.

I actually basically disagree in principle with any Uni having a venue of that size at all if its only way to fill the ****ing thing is to put on mainstream commercial bands.

What concerns me is... say there was a new and exciting band... like the Mothers of Invention, or Pavement, or whatever.

I can understand that in a commercial environment a band like that may not be expected to survive, and that's nobody's fault... but I think that given that the government/lottery basically does exactly nothing for bands as it is... it seems to be that one of the last bastions of getting audiences for "weird bands" is the Universities.

So quite what the thinking is behind giving a university a venue so big you can't run it unless you do something mainstream with it I DO NOT KNOW.

How does your band survive this? You change the sound of your band so they sound like the Libertines, Yeah yeah yeahs, Kooks or the Zutons.

And I think this is a shame.

I'm pretty sure you're mistaken. I know you're not a big gig-goer, and I'm fairly sure your experience of the bands that have actually played at 53 degrees isn't that far removed from zero.

I, on the other hand, have been to a whole bunch of shows there, and have seen a wide variety of acts play - I guess it might be fair to say that I haven't seen anyone being wilfully obscure, but to suggest that all that plays at 53 degrees is some kind of parade of chart friendly carbon-copy nonsense does a disservice to the bands who have played, and the venue itself.

I think the problem is, Dave, that you're arguing against your own vision of what 53 is, and I'm sorry to tell you that vision isn't really in sync with the reality. The way you talk about 53 degrees (and the radio one thing, and any other perceived slight on your notions of art) you'd think they were hiring naught but ropey Britney Spears cover bands.

Trouble is, that's not the case, and the main thing that comes across is you saying (in a fairly supercilious way) that the music you make is basically better, more valid and obviously better art than anyone else produces. There's nothing wrong with thinking that, but I reckon it's better to spend time saying you're good (and you are) by saying you're good, rather than by degrading the work of others and couching that in the guise of "good honest debate".

[Jonnysus]

Gojira

[godonlyknows]

Trouble is, that's not the case, and the main thing that comes across is you saying (in a fairly supercilious way) that the music you make is basically better, more valid and obviously better art than anyone else produces. There's nothing wrong with thinking that, but I reckon it's better to spend time saying you're good (and you are) by saying you're good, rather than by degrading the work of others and couching that in the guise of "good honest debate".
Well, my band rules, of course.

However, it's a band influenced almost entirely by mainstream acts. If we were of a mind to generate an audience and traipse it around the bars of Preston for blowjobs and sycophantic handshakes, and if we were 7-8 years younger, I'm sure it wouldn't be too unreasonable to think we could get into the "scene" that might play in a venue such as this.

Furthermore, 53 degrees has had the phenomenal How's My Pop on. I love lots of commercially viable bands.

I would just prefer a musical community that actually seemed to like the weirder stuff, that's all. Weirder stuff, incidentally, that I don't make myself.

I'm not thinking in terms of one thing being more valid than another. Validity is a ridiculous way to look at music, as it is all just sounds made by people who have nothing better to be doing.

[Dave Gate]

Could I just intervene here:

Firstly 53 Degrees is not owned or run by the University. The Students' Union is a separate organisation whose non-commercial activities (eg Clubs & Societies, Advice Centre etc.) are funded by the University but whose commercial activities have to be a) self supporting, b) generate enough surplus to pay a proportion of the Students' Union's admin costs and c) have some surplus left over for capital investment into services for the students of UCLan (and not just in commercial areas).

So, while it is perfectly feasible to put on any event that you know will not pull a capacity crowd so long as you are sure that the expected level of attendance will cover the costs of putting on the event it would be crazy to put something on that you knew would lose you money; as then that money would have to be found from somewhere else. Do that too often and your venue goes under.

The only exception is if you can tap into an alternative source of funding - for example the Music Box acoustic nights we did about 18 months ago were part-funded by the University's cultural fund. Unfortunately there is only one venue in Preston that regularly receives a subsidy so doesn't have to have commercial considerations in mind all the time; and they aren't particularly reknowned for musical diversity and experimentation either.

[catriona]

Unfortunately there is only one venue in Preston that regularly receives a subsidy so doesn't have to have commercial considerations in mind all the time; and they aren't particularly reknowned for musical diversity and experimentation either.

Which venue is that then?

[Marsha]

Which venue is that then?guild hall maybe, as i think thats council run!

[Klute]

Obviously I'm not suggesting there is not a difference between the two things there, Patrick.

I actually basically disagree in principle with any Uni having a venue of that size at all if its only way to fill the ****ing thing is to put on mainstream commercial bands.

What concerns me is... say there was a new and exciting band... like the Mothers of Invention, or Pavement, or whatever.

I can understand that in a commercial environment a band like that may not be expected to survive, and that's nobody's fault... but I think that given that the government/lottery basically does exactly nothing for bands as it is... it seems to be that one of the last bastions of getting audiences for "weird bands" is the Universities.

So quite what the thinking is behind giving a university a venue so big you can't run it unless you do something mainstream with it I DO NOT KNOW.

How does your band survive this? You change the sound of your band so they sound like the Libertines, Yeah yeah yeahs, Kooks or the Zutons.

And I think this is a shame.

Heehee, Dave, no offence really, but you do talk some unmitigated cobblers sometimes, particularly when you're blatantly keyboard heroing.

[Dave Gate]

guild hall maybe, as i think thats council run!

We are indeed talking about The Guildhall. I for one would be very interested to know what their subsidy is. I've heard something from a quite reliable source, which indicates that it's quite large.

Wonder if I could use the Freedom of Information Act to find out?

[Marsha]

We are indeed talking about The Guildhall. I for one would be very interested to know what their subsidy is. I've heard something from a quite reliable source, which indicates that it's quite large.

Wonder if I could use the Freedom of Information Act to find out?go on, do it.

but not in work time please.......in your own time! LOLOLOLOL

[Ziv]

Well, my band rules, of course.

However, it's a band influenced almost entirely by mainstream acts. If we were of a mind to generate an audience and traipse it around the bars of Preston for blowjobs and sycophantic handshakes, and if we were 7-8 years younger, I'm sure it wouldn't be too unreasonable to think we could get into the "scene" that might play in a venue such as this.



With a 10 year old GIRL IN YOUR BAND!?

[godonlyknows]

With a 10 year old GIRL IN YOUR BAND!?
That's the dream!

Get your school uniform out, honey, I think we have our very own version of "Urchin Punk" or whatever ridiculous phrase it is.




*PS* DEAR THE HOME OFFICE: THIS IS NOT A REAL REMARK, BUT A JOKE, WHICH MAY BE IN POOR TASTE, BUT DOES NOT MEAN I'M INTO KIDS.

JUST ADULT LADIES DRESSED AS KIDS.

[cerilee]

Righty, I hadn't realised this thread had gone so advanced...


Summed up -

If you want to see "wierd" acts go to a smaller venue where the overheads are not as large. If promotion is done properly, then the promoters would have just as much change to get the students in who are "looking to hear something they didn't know they would like".

53 Degrees is getting a better reputation of getting larger acts so people don't have to travel to places such as Manchester to see bands. This means that we can slowly get more and more acts.

53 Degrees is diverse - from comedy, to drum and bass, to GoodGreef, to acts such as Good Shoes and The Noisettes right through to Gomez, Super Furry Animals, Buzzcocks and Porcupine Tree. There is a massive effort from everyone who works there to try and cater for everyone's tastes as far as we feasibly can.

These factors together basically make PRESTON as a whole an improving place. Why would anyone want to go to the same venue EVERY time they see a gig?

And finally, everyone at 53, especially Leona, Dave Gate, dave Evans, Julie and the street team, as well as the bar staff and security staff, work so bloody hard to do what the general public want.

Of course any suggestions will be kept in mind.

[godonlyknows]

http://www.4sbccfaculty.org/lecture/2000s/images/shapiro_images/32-downs-syndrome_72.jpg

[cerilee]

haha he's actually really cute!

[Dave Gate]

I'd like to see the Happy Mondays myself.

[Marsha]

I'd like to see the Happy Mondays myself.as if by magic.........

[MrDykes]

Bez has got his own band doing the rounds, they are called domino bones, from what i remember they weren't the best

[cerilee]

Bez has got his own band doing the rounds, they are called domino bones, from what i remember they weren't the best

perhaps he was twisting your melon man.

[youngone69uk]

Hi there Check these guys out and get them on at 53 degrees if you like them.

www.myspace.com/takeinthetrash

[TheVictorian]

The New Pornographers - who have a new album coming out sometime soon.

[Marsha]

john, i really do like you but i cant take you seriously due the the BANNER you have!

LOL

just kidding (half!)

[Good Soul]

ocs
tiny dancers
the fratellis
morning runner
the thrills
the music
the veils
millburn(again)

that will do for now

















oh and oasis, the verve and the arctic monkeys please:D

[Upthewhites]

What about Jesse Malin?

[silentkit]

dartz!
clap your hands say yeah
seafood
ben kweller
semifinalists

there's a band from liverpool called strawhouses who are pretty good live, but not really well known at all

[silentkit]

or not

[understrapneverarm]

Battles!

[gutter_gl1tter]

not really so indie but plain white t's would be great
or gym class heroes.sigh. travis<3

[Cuckoo For Caca]

You have a dreadful taste in music.

[thejoker]

Tigerpicks
Fire Flies
Bis

[Marsha]

Tigerpicks
i was thinking of booking them for your 30th!!!

[Miss 616]

Ooooh - any chance of IAMX (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2715823&MyToken=011e1b48-b1f9-4b0d-8b63-1779ba03b514) ?

Missed them tonight at Manchester as I ummmmm, partyd a bit to hard the night before :( But their tours supposed to have been amazing - any chance you might be able to get a 53 date if they do another one soon???

[dan-bass-man]

the locals

who have new songs on their myspace

www.myspace.com/thelocalsblackpool

[Joe]

or gym class heroes.sigh. travis<3

they must be the worst band in the world.

[Jonnysus]

Dethklok

[Horse]

Seems a bit quiet this thread, but hope its still an "active" one!? Been a while since I last logged on.

Cage the Elephant
I am Kloot
Blood Red Shoes

[hijk771]

.

[Lou]

The Black Velvet Band please!! Bloody awesome.

[Marsha]

Anyone got any good suggestions for the big room for next year?

personally i would like to see Alphabeat, Katy Perry and Klaxons

[Sarcastic]

Get Frank Turner and Johnny Flynn in!

[dogzilla]

Dirty Projectors

[Roy Disco]

Book the Dirtbombs.

Do it.

[J2TheH]

Book the Dirtbombs.

Do it.

LOL.

This.

[Alcmene]

Anyone got any good suggestions for the big room for next year?

personally i would like to see Alphabeat, Katy Perry and Klaxons

Ting Tings

[bik]

Amplifier

Ratatat

Holy F**k

And you will hear us from afar

charlie XCX

SeaWolf

joesephine Oniyama

elbow

Z-trip

[Miss 616]

IAMX (http://www.myspace.com/iamx) (ex sneaker pimps)

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa233/xoxoARTemys/iamx.jpg

Amazing live (seen em twice)

[Miss 616]

(from previous page)
Ooooh - any chance of IAMX (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2715823&MyToken=011e1b48-b1f9-4b0d-8b63-1779ba03b514) ?

Missed them tonight at Manchester as I ummmmm, partyd a bit to hard the night before :( But their tours supposed to have been amazing - any chance you might be able to get a 53 date if they do another one soon???


LOL - guess I've got pretty much one fave indie band

[Pish]

Mr Scruff.

[jessdrummer]

Holy F**k



This!

[Marsha]

Ting Tingshaha, i have been asking for these for quite some time! will see!

[Scrubinio]

haha, i have been asking for these for quite some time! will see!

White Lies.

Oh wait they are on and I have tix - which stage are they on Leona?

Please not upstairs..

[AlpineJoe]

Half Man Half Biscuit.

[Marsha]

White Lies.

Oh wait they are on and I have tix - which stage are they on Leona?

Please not upstairs..i cant remember who thay are supporting off the top of my head......but i think its Glasvegas. if it is then it will be downstairs

[Roy Disco]

Have you booked the Dirtbombs yet?

[Marsha]

no

[Roy Disco]

no

Rubbish.